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The AI Power Podcast

If you work in AI policy — or you're just fascinated by it — this is the podcast for you. Every week, The AI Power Podcast unpacks the developments that actually mattered: AI regulation, safety, economic policy, US–China competition, semiconductor export controls, and national security. Think of it as drinks after work with the smart friend who tells you what's really going on, and what might actually work, in plain English.

Plus interview episodes — long-form conversations with the policymakers, builders, executives, and analysts shaping artificial intelligence and the global power competition built around it.

Hosted by Gregory C. Allen. A new show from Decision Tree Research.

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Gregory C. Allen

Founder and CEO of Decision Tree Research. Greg previously directed the Wadhwani AI Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, where he hosted The AI Policy Podcast — the show whose successor you're listening to now.

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From The AI Policy Podcast to The AI Power Podcast

From January 2024 to April 2026, Gregory C. Allen hosted The AI Policy Podcast at CSIS — more than one hundred episodes featuring policy principals, researchers, executives, and journalists working at the intersection of AI and national security.

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AI Policy Podcast
2024 – 2026 · CSIS
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AI Power Podcast
2026 – present · Decision Tree Research

Prior interviews on The AI Policy Podcast

A representative selection of conversations from the 100+ episodes hosted at CSIS, grouped by speaker. Each entry links directly to the episode at CSIS.

Government and senior officials

  • Hon. Michael Bennet & Hon. Todd Young
    United States Senators (Colorado, Indiana)

    A bipartisan conversation on global technology competition with China.

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  • Hon. Jay Obernolte
    U.S. Representative; co-chair, House Bipartisan Task Force on AI

    The future of U.S. AI regulation, federal preemption, and prospects for congressional action.

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  • Dr. Alondra Nelson
    Harold F. Linder Chair, Institute for Advanced Study; former Acting Director, White House OSTP

    The Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights and the broader AI policy landscape.

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  • Hon. Michael Kratsios
    Director, White House Office of Science and Technology Policy

    The Trump administration's AI Action Plan and U.S. AI leadership amid strategic competition with China.

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  • Dr. Ben Buchanan
    Special Advisor for AI, The White House

    U.S. priorities for domestic and international AI governance.

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  • Elizabeth Kelly
    Director, U.S. AI Safety Institute, NIST

    The U.S. AISI's strategic vision, the AI Executive Order, and the international AI safety institute network.

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  • Dr. Radha Plumb
    Chief Digital and AI Officer, U.S. Department of Defense

    The CDAO's role in transforming the Department's AI adoption.

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  • Schuyler Moore, Justin Fanelli & Dr. Alex Miller
    Chief Technology Officers of U.S. Central Command, the Department of the Navy, and the Chief of Staff of the Army

    The warfighter's adoption of emerging technologies across combatant commands and services.

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  • Hon. Andrei Iancu
    Former Director, U.S. Patent and Trademark Office; former Undersecretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property

    AI and intellectual property — copyright, patent subject-matter eligibility, and inventorship.

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International leaders and diplomats

  • H.E. Amb. Vinay Kwatra & H.E. Amb. Laurent Bili
    Ambassadors of India and France to the United States

    Bilateral diplomacy and the multilateral architecture around global AI summits.

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  • S. Krishnan
    Secretary, Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology, Government of India

    India's AI strategy and the lead-up to the India AI Impact Summit.

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  • Marietje Schaake
    Former Member of the European Parliament; International Policy Fellow, Stanford

    The drafting, compliance, and systemic-risk provisions of the EU AI Act Code of Practice.

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  • Dragoș Tudorache
    Former Member of the European Parliament; co-rapporteur, EU AI Act

    The EU AI Act roadmap, the AI Office, and balancing innovation with regulation.

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Industry executives and founders

  • Alexandr Wang
    Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Scale AI

    Securing U.S. AI leadership amid intensifying competition with China.

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  • Jennifer Pahlka
    Founder, Code for America; author, Recoding America

    Reforming government for the AI era.

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  • Ryan Tseng
    Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer, Shield AI

    Building an autonomous future for the U.S. Department of Defense.

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  • Jim Rowan
    Chief Executive Officer, Volvo Cars

    AI and autonomy in the automotive industry, fragmented driving regulation, and U.S.–China commercial tensions.

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  • Vilas Dhar
    President and Trustee, Patrick J. McGovern Foundation

    The promise of AI governance and equitable, sustainable AI futures.

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  • Owen Larter
    Head of Frontier Policy and Public Affairs, Google DeepMind

    The under-appreciated role of AI standards in shaping how AI is developed and governed.

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  • Jai Ramaswamy & Matt Perault
    Andreessen Horowitz

    a16z's AI policy agenda, defense-tech investments, and federal versus state regulation.

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Authors and academics

  • Prof. Chris Miller
    Professor of International History, Tufts University; author, Chip War

    The state of the global semiconductor competition.

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  • Katrina Manson
    Author, Project Maven: A Marine Colonel, His Team, and the Dawn of AI Warfare

    Inside Project Maven and the dawn of AI-powered warfare.

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  • Prof. Harry Holzer
    Professor, Georgetown University; former Chief Economist, U.S. Department of Labor

    How AI is set to transform labor markets.

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  • Kyle Chan
    Researcher, Princeton University; China industrial policy specialist

    The tools, priorities, and impact of China's AI industrial policy.

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  • Matt Sheehan
    Fellow, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

    Mapping Chinese AI regulation.

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AI policy experts and analysts

  • Andrew Freedman
    Chief Strategy Officer, Fathom

    A new vision for advancing AI governance.

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  • Dean Ball
    Research Fellow, Mercatus Center, George Mason University

    The state and local AI regulation landscape.

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  • Stephen Clare & Stephen Casper
    Writers, International AI Safety Report

    Findings on technical safeguards and policy implications of the second International AI Safety Report.

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  • Miles Brundage & Chris Rohlf
    Independent AI security researchers

    AI cybersecurity, securing model weights, and the offense–defense balance.

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  • Lennart Heim
    Senior Information Scientist, RAND Corporation

    Week one of the Trump administration's AI policy, AGI timelines, and DeepSeek.

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  • Dr. Jeff Alstott
    National Science Foundation; Director, Center for Technology and Security Policy, RAND Corporation

    The past, present, and future of technology forecasting and the NSF's APTO initiative.

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  • Kateryna Bondar
    Fellow, Wadhwani AI Center, CSIS

    Russia's military AI, sovereign drone ecosystems, and AI-enabled command and control.

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  • Chris McGuire
    AI and semiconductor export-controls expert

    China's EUV Manhattan Project and export-control mythbusting.

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  • Georgia Adamson & Saif Khan
    Institute for Progress

    Whether the United States should sell Nvidia's Blackwell B30A chips to China.

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  • Joseph Majkut
    Director, Energy Security and Climate Change Program, CSIS

    The energy cost of AI.

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A representative selection — the full archive spans 100+ episodes.

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The AI Policy Podcast archive

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